11/8/2019 Ejercito Argentino 1911 Serial Numbers
Talking about the Argentine miliary's licensed Colt 1911 copy, known as a. The particular serial I'm looking for is 354XX, Ejercito markings, but I'd. Numbers Produced at FMAP Rosario and Serial Numbers, 1945-1966. Jun 1, 2018 - Ejercito Argentino 1911 Serial Numbers.45 ACP cal., these are pistols that the government sent back to various military arsenals for reworking,.
You stated:'Between 1914 and 1950, 26,426 Colt 1911 and 1911A1 pistols were purchased from Colt by the Argentine Government. Another 102,494 1911A1s were produced in Argentina under license from Colt.(.) In 1914, the Argentine military adopted the Colt M1911 as their standard military sidearm and contracted with Colt to supply these guns. Argentina took shipment of 6,821 of these weapons between 1914 and 1919: 5,421, S/Ns C6201 C-11621 in 1914, 321 of them marked MARINA ARGENTINA (Argentine Navy, also known as Armada Argentina, Armada Nacional, and Marina de Guerra); 1,000 IN 1915, s/n C20,001 C21000; and 400 in 1919 within the S/N range of C86790 C116583 ' and that Argentina took shipment of 5421 pistols between serial numbers 6201 and 11621. This is all of the pistols within that serial range.
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Whereas the Canadian Government took delivery of 3900 pistols within that serial range per Goddards shipping records. I believe that the only pistols shipped to Argentina within that serial range were the were two batches between C6201 and C6400, and the batch between C11501 and C11621. Clawson (Page 139 states that there were a total of 2151 1911 style pistols shipped to Argentina and that includes the 1000 pistols shipped in 1916 numbered from C20001 to C21000. Hello Butchblosc, I just found this forum while trying to find out some info on Sistema's and Agentine Colt's.
(Now I get to spend even more time on the computer looking at gun stuff!) Your info has been very helpful! I have been looking hard at getting a Sistema or other Argentine Colt. I have seen Sistema's for sale on Cruffler.com (J.L.D.) and Southern Ohio Gun. Is there any other sources besides these two places and the auction sites to look? Offers the Sistema's for $300.00 and Pistola Colt Modelo's(?) for $450.00 with original finish. Any opinions? Thanks for the info!
Quote: Originally posted by butchblosc A batch of 5,320 Hartford Colts were made in 1933 and issued to the Buenos Aires Police Department, and are known as the Policia de la Capital pistols. The first order was placed that year through a private arms dealer. Police pistols show the fit and finish typical of pre-war Colts, and are blued with commercial markings. The police pistols are serial numbered within the C165000 through C171000 range.
The right sides of the slides are marked with the normal Colt writing and logo. The left sides are marked POLICIA DE LA CAPITAL.
On the right sides of the frames is marked, Government Model over the serial numbers. The tops of the slides are marked with property numbers, 1 5,320. I have one of those but it says 'Policia Federal'. There was a mark of some kind to the left of it, but its pretty worn.
And the mark on top says 7167. Butchblosc, I just picked up my latest Sistema today, and it's marked a bit different. It's serial number of 1101XX (1964) and the right side only has the serial number-no slide markings denoting what branch of service. The left side of the slide is marked with FM in a circle, and next to that are 2 lines- 'FABRICA MILITAR DE ARMAS PORTATILES-ROSARIO' and below that 'SISTEMA COLT CAL. 11.25 mm-INDUSTRIA ARGENTINA'. These's an F stamped under the serial number on the frame, and an A with a star stamped on the left side under the slide release. It's in A1 shape, loose like a WW@ military gun (rattles when you shake it) and looks like it's been re-arsenaled.
The frame's parked and the slide a reblue. There's no wear at all on the slide stop hole or on the slide where the slide release goes in and the frame rails seem very sharp. The barrel hood is in the white, with no blue in the serial number and looks very new-the barrel still has the 'stirations' going around the barrel on the outside. On the slide someone stamped something-it's some kind of arsenal stamp, all I can make out in the oval shaped stamp is 'Santa Fe'.
Has been the source of most of my Sistemas. Fred and Denise are great people to deal with. All of them are JLD imports. Not long ago they still had some in stock, but they don't list them on the website. Ordering from JLD through Cruffler.com won't get you very far. My neighbor and I have been on the waiting list for 11 months now.
Their alleged shipment of M1927's was always 'two months' away. Shortly before Thanksgiving, JLD stopped returning emails and phone calls.
They've also deleted all the C&R pistol info from their website.
Need estimated value of Colt Model 1927, EJERCITO ARGENTINO US made, sub 2,000 serial number of 1-10,000 sequential serial number ALL numbers matching, including magazine No box, No papers In 1927, the Argentine Commission for Foreign Acquisitions negotiated a contract with Colt for the manufacture of M1911A1.45 caliber self-loading pistols specially marked and serial numbered in a separate series, and secured a licensing agreement giving the Argentine government the right to manufacture these pistols. The agreement specified: 1) that Colt would manufacture 10,000 Colt automatic pistols, caliber.45, Ejercito Argentino Modelo 1927, for the Argentine Army; 2) that the complete knowledge base for future production of the pistols in Argentina, including drawings, manufacturing instructions, material specifications, tool requirements, etc., would be transferred to Argentine control; and 3) that Argentine technicians would be trained in manufacturing operations and inspection. THE 1927 HARTFORD ARGENTINE ARMY MODELS The 10,000 Hartford Colts made for Argentina prior to production of Sistemas were delivered from 1927 to 1933, serial #s 1-10,000.'
The production period was from July 28, 1927 to February 16, 1928. Serial numbers were stamped in Colts italic numbers on top of the slides, under the mainspring housing, and (usually) on top of the barrel. On the left side of the slide (the Colt logo is stamped behind these lines): 'COLT'S PT. USA' 'PATD APR. 20, 1897,SEPT. 19, 1905,FEB. 14, 1911,AUG.
On the right side of the slide is the Argentine Crest and: 'EJERCITO ARGENTINO' 'COLT CAL. 1927' Ejercito Argentino is the Argentine Army, but some of the Hartfords were issued to Policia Maritima, Argentinas Shore Patrol. My guess is between $1,000 and $1,500.
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